It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. While it is common for artists to tease their comebacks for up to a month, the time they spend on promoting the new music in conventional ways such as music shows and variety show appearances has decreased by . If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. That crosses every sort of line. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. gads_event = event; Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. Thanks for the reply! Solar will previal . Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. Thank you~). Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. Goodbye! Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. },false) And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. [3] Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. I really dislike fat girls. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. Their members consist of Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, and Hwasa, with Solar being the oldest and leader of the group. Call me out for what? I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. }); pg.acq.push(function() { Threads: 138. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. hitType: 'event', Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. }); Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. hitType: 'event', This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. . I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. Our hearts on fire . if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ 1,068. Thanks for posting this. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. 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This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. ga('ads.send', { actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? i love exo. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. 2. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. Probation Faker. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. #1. Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. }); We are one of the worlds fastest growing From their raunchy and raw fashion choices to wearing blackface to sing Bruno Mars - let's look back at the highs and the lows as the outspoken quartet celebrate their 6th anniversary as a band But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. ga('ads.send', { Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. ga('ads.send', { but its hard not to be. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. hitType: 'event', omg?? It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. 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