Matte finish with synthetic stock. Your email address will not be published. This is based on a necked-up .378 Weatherby case that, as we have seen, was inspired by the .416 Rigby case. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Twin Mark V Deluxes in .378 and .460, both with Leicas. Roy Weatherby developed the .30-.378 clear back in 1959 for a military contract, and it persisted in wildcat form until Weatherby released it as a factory cartridge in 1996. I'm having a tough time deciding.so fire away with any thoughts or experiences as I'm open! The big Rigby case required an extra-large magnum action; supply was limited, and costs were high. Google Analytics sets this cookie to store the traffic source or campaign by which the visitor reached the site. I have the Rigby version which, when compared to the Weatherby, is a pussycat. I've never had the slightest trouble with the 416 Rem. It meets the minimum caliber requirements where they are in place. The rifle I shot didn't, but it was not the beastly experience some would have you believe. I would go with the .416 also. I've shot the .460 Wby, and yes it's a handful to shoot - but it is not an artillery round strapped to your shoulder, and unless you plan to shoot it from a bench for hours on end, recoil is definitely manageable - particularly if the Wby you're shooting has the AccuBrake. I have heard/read so many people praise the .416 Rigby -- which in this range of cartridges means they are happy to trust their lives to it, when there are many other details they will complain bitterly about such as PushFeed vs. CRF -- that I have no doubt it is more than enough in its traditional loads. My Model 70`s and CZ`s controlled feed and my "other" bolt actions have NEVER failed to feed the next round ( including WSM caliber)! The 378 Weatherby Magnum was created as a new cartridge, with a larger case capacity and bolt face diameter. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They can be driven in the mid- 2600 fps range, and are as deadly as Kryptonite. The .458 Lott approaches .416 velocity; the .450 Rigby Rimless Magnum, .460 Weatherby Magnum, and behemoths like the .500 Jeffery and .505 Gibbs can equal (or exceed) .416 velocities. $0.00 sold out. I had my first .416 Rigby at that time, a Dumoulin. Available in 12ga., 3" and 3.5" chamberings. The cookie is set by Google Analytics and is deleted when the user closes the browser. Weatherby's cartridges have been first and foremost about speed, so when a . Jack OConnor had a .416 Rigby; he made brass by turning the belts off of .460 Weatherby brass on a lathe. The 378 Weatherby Magnum is third from the right. Griptonite stock available in multiple camo patterns. TALKING TO 3 PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS- ALL SAID 416 IS THE BEST FOR DANGEROUS GAME- THE REASON I BOUGHT IT. 416 Rigby 416 Taylor 450 Rigby 458 Lott 458 Win. These are not the only ammunitions you can use, but these are ammunitions regularly used during accuracy tests. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. We turned a corner and a buffalo bull stood on the bank, alone, mature, good bosses, nice curl. Het ontwerp van de behuizing is genspireerd op de .416 Rigby-cartridge en heeft een riem en Weatherby's kenmerkende venturi-schouder met dubbele radius. Retained as a proprietary cartridge, rifles and ammo were only available from Rigby. USA. The action was milled out to accomodate a 95mm (Sorry, don't know the inches)internal magazine box and the feed ramp polished and shaped to feed slick. Find out the best price on in-stock 9 mm cheap bulk ammunition from more than 100 ammo stores. Don Heath wrote an article quite a while ago -- after 1991 -- bemoaning a lot of cartridges and rifles, the .416 rem in mod 700 among them. While a .460 Weatherby Magnum will have greater killing power than a .416 Weatherby Magnum is true. Multiple camo patters available. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Fax (520) 622-1205, African Wildlife Consultative Forum (AWCF). The .416s (and similar) are not only perfectly adequate for the very largest gamebut just might be better than a true big-bore of .450-plus. A couple of weeks later, Peter Johnstone and I approached a bachelor group of elephants feeding in dense mopane. Neither rifle is what you would call tame. Ive used it at high temperatures in Cameroon, the Zambezi Valley and coastal Mozambique. 3 Item (s) Show: 24. The 416 is a necked-down 460 Weatherby, so recoil will be on par with the larger bore. I would like to purchase these. 30" barrels. Mag. Hit hard, the bull vanished into thick growth near the bank. It has considerably more punch than the Rigby. The .375 Weatherby and RUM hit more like a .416 than a .375, and the big .378 is awesome but especially vicious in recoil. The shot was taken at 250m due to the mist AND rain. This cookie is passed to HubSpot on form submission and used when deduplicating contacts. Ive never seen a .416 solid at 2,400 fps fail to penetrate. Swift A-Frame bullets are well-proven bullets around the world. However, handloading them to 2350-2400 fps puts them in the same velcoity range as the original 416 Rigby load, and there doesn't seem to be much of an issue with the 416 Rem so loaded. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. All ammunition is shipped domestic ground and an adult signature is required. So, the .378 Weatherby is a great round and a great gun so long as you can shoot it properly. According to modern pressure standards, some of the older loads for the .416 Taylor were pretty hot--but it is still capable of beating the .450/400's and those also have great reps in Africa. Coming home with this exciting news, and worried that AGS was gone for good, I looked up prices some online store is selling AGS for $200 per 25. 12. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. Too bad. Set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin, this cookie is used to record the user consent for the cookies in the "Advertisement" category . The group pictured at the bottom is a 500 grain TSX seated long at 2,640 FPS. I was running into very large pigs and after having one charge me at less than 5 yards, the 375 H&H just didnt stop it. As for recoil, its like the old Russian proverb,"you can get used to anything, if you do it long enough, you can even get used to hanging". I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. .30-378 Weatherby Magnum (8).300 Weatherby Magnum (66).300 Win (22).308 Win (28).338 Lapua Magnum (1).338-378 Weatherby Magnum (5).340 Weatherby Magnum (1) Thus, in a sense, with the .416 Weatherby we have come full circle. Google Analytics sets this cookie to inhibit request rate. Records the default button state of the corresponding category & the status of CCPA. Must be 18 or older to purchase rifle ammunition. Are any of these diameters better? Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Forgot to mention that I also owned the .416 Remington which was made up on a .458 Supergrade Model 70, with Remington Factory barrel rethreaded to the action. The problem is the recoil becomes too much for many of us. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. Federal made the ammo, initially using Woodleigh bullets and precisely following John Rigbys formula: 410-grain bullet, 2,370 fps, 4,990 ft-lbs of energy. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Sectional Density (SD) of the 400-grain .416 bullet is a very high .330; SD of the 400-grain .423-inch bullet is slightly lower at .319; and SDs of the 400-grain .410-inch bullet is slightly higher at .340. JavaScript is disabled. Elastomer stock. Weatherby's .30-378 is the .378 Weatherby Magnum necked down to .30 caliber and can drive a 180-grain bullet in excess of 3,400 fps. Capacity: Floor Plate. I have both "controlled " and "uncontrolled " bolt action rifles. The stock shape and tire-rubber recoil pad made it hell even from offhand. Have found the No. Their .378/.460 case is dimensionally the same as the .416 Rigby case, except the Weatherby version wears a belt. Rounding things out, in mid-1989 Weatherby necked their .460 Weatherby Magnum down to .416, creating the .416 Weatherby Magnum. Available in 12 and 20ga., and a 22" barrel. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. Griptonite stock with tungsten Cerakote barrel and action. Jamest..impressive groups. Even just the new brass is $75/ box. Far more importantly, Ive seen solids from the great Nitro Express cartridges, consistently about 2,150 fps, fail to penetrate on elephant, especially with the tricky frontal brain shot. IF YOU ARE RECOIL SENSITIVE- DO NOT GO TO AFRICA AND HUNT DANGEROUS GAME. There is a small risk of petal loss when the GMX is used in this manner though this makes little difference to its performance. WEATHERBY. I once read that the .416wby 1 gun safari would be hard to beat Statistically speaking, so that there is no confusion when comparing the performance of the .378 Weatherby Magnum to the .416 Rigby, understand that the .378 Weatherby Magnum pushes out a projectile that is not only faster but, more powerful than that flying from a .416 Rigby. Adopted by several African game departments, the. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. Elastomer stock. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26 and 28" barrels. When loaded to near Rigby velocity none of the famous shooters ever had a problem with cartridges sticking or being underpowered. Early batches of Remington 400 gr. I don't have a belt instilled phobia. The .416 rem has some small scope (Burris short mag 4x; hope was that fixed power had fewer moving parts, more solid per $ so far, hasn't given me sorrow). It is my belief that 416 Rigby velocities offer ample killing power, and that when you push the same bullets up toward 416 Weatherby velocities, for most riflemen recoil starts to get in the way of good shooting, negating the edge provided by the extra energy the 416 Wby. It was a now of never shot. De .416 Weatherby Magnum gebruikt dezelfde behuizing als de .378 Weatherby Magnum en de .460 Weatherby Magnum. Griptonite stock with tungsten Cerakote barrel and action. For now I am going to keep mine at 2300fps and the Rigby 2400-2500fps. I have been giving some thought to the new Ruger rifle and what kind of .416 it might become. The only issue would be ammo availability in a pinch which is why, on many blogs, you will hear the praise for the .375 Weatherby because it outperforms the .375 H&H and, if you run out of ammo it can shoot the .375 H&H. In terms of ammo availability, the .416 Rigby and Remington are the most common, probably followed by the .404 Jeffery; most of the rest are available from more limited sources. It is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. That is hot, especially for a non-temp sensitive powder. Location. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. However, it has never been popular. I've been thinking about a .416 RUM with the Cutting Edge 370's. Blaine - interested in your like for the Hogue with the block. Combining 1911-vintage propellants with use in the tropics, .416 Rigby ammo was always loaded to low pressure. The .378 Weatherby is a monumental cartridge in its size, power, and capabilities. Yes on all of your pressure conclusions. A TRULY THE MOST AWESOME HUNT AND RIFLE. . YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. Shoot, you don't even have to be loonie to enjoy it! NOTHING SHOOTS FLATTER. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Their designation uses the smaller land (rather than groove or bullet) diameter. I dont want to imply that our baseline cartridge, the .375 H&H, isnt fully adequate for buffalo. Thanks for any feed back. All current rifles are so bored, but there are also .411-inch bullets available (which is the correct diameter for the old .405 Winchester. Yeah but you don't need to mistrust one rifle just to add another. If I had the use for one of these lasers, I would love to have one, but the woods I hunt in barely give me a shot over 100 yards. Any action that can handle a 375 H+H will handle the 416 Remington. However, the various lower .40s with, 400-grain bullets at roundabout 2,400 fps, produce more energyand do it with heavier bullets with greater frontal area. This cookie is set by the Google recaptcha service to identify bots to protect the website against malicious spam attacks. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of sessions and to determine if HubSpot should increment the session number and timestamps in the __hstc cookie. The cover opened up in just a few yards and thats where we found him. Google Analytics sets this cookie to store the traffic source or campaign by which the visitor reached the site. He took the .375 H&H, blew out. Ultra-high velocity, magnum ammunition is how Roy Weatherby got started in the 1940s. Woe is me!! The elements were against us, with rain and mist making visibility poor. I know that some shooters leaned on the Taylor pretty hard. Email inquiries only for accessories and non-firearm related items. All of these SDs exceed that of the 300-grain .375, SD .305, a bullet well-known for great penetration. It offers an effective low-recoil option in double rifles. The .378 recoil with a brake is not, at all, murderous. With the more manageable recoil of the 6.5/300, it may last a little longer. Long, long ago (1944), in a land that no longer exists called the United States of America, Roy Weatherby designed a new .375 cartridge to which he gave his name. A brake would almost be neccesary unless this was a safari only rifle. After he found out it would easily reach 2400fps he backed off to 2300fps loaded with 3031. Rigby did their best to keep their .416 alive with special runs of ammo, but cartridges, brass and bullets became scarce. Performance was awesome, but please note that, when you add a couple hundred more feet per second recoil goes up sharply! 3 OF 8 PEOPLE HELPING ME TRACK THIS LION HAD SCARS FROM PREVIOUS LION HUNTS. The .378 is a belted .416 Rigby. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. The 460 I fired had a muzzle brake and was a little kinder to the sholder than the 416 that didnt. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. The ideal choice for the single gun African safari or Alaskas big bears. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Note that Roy Weatherby killed and dropped, in its tracks, a Cape Buffalo with one shot from his .257 Weatherby Magnum. Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. I'm not going to mess with that load. Please make sure to read the title and description of the item. Hoffmans cartridge needed a .375 H&H-length action, but his cartridge equaled the .416 Rigby and pretty much set the new standard for .416 ballistics: 400-grain bullet, 2,400 fps, 5,115 ft-lbs of energy. A couple of smaller bulls passedand then the big bull stepped forward. By then things were changing fast. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. I have had two 416 Rems and both would shoot fatory 400 grain SAF ammo at over 2500 fps. As history progressed, Weatherby added the .224, .240, .378, and .460 Weatherby Magnum. The wildcat .425 Express, developed by Cameron Hopkins and Whit Collins, uses a .423-inch bullet. The ideal choice for the single gun African safari or Alaska's big bears. That`s the single reason I bought a 416 Rem Mag! The 416 has quickly become one of the best all-around cartridges for Africa. Looking at my 2010 Weatherby catalog: 300 Wby 200 Partition is 9.8 in low at 400 yds with a 300 yd 0. Energy yield for both is 5,000 ft-lbs, always a good rule of thumb for the largest game. Today, some well-constructed, premium-grade bullets will stand up to the tremendous impact. Today, those same performance qualities are every bit a part of Weatherby cartridges. Those who whine about muzzle brakes should be advised that hearing protection should be used when shooting powerful rifles (or when observing) whether the rifle has a brake or not. Lee even offers a set of dies priced like 30-06 dies. To my knowledge it is still going. Residents of DE, KS, OH, and WA may have additional restrictions. When I shoot a critter, I automatically chamber a second round JUST in case. The price for all that goodness is very heavy recoil. Boxes, International Addresses, AK, CA, HI, MA, CT, IL, NJ, NY nor DC residents. Multiple camo patters available. Elastomer stock. At 200 yards, the 378 Weatherby Magnum has as much energy as some of the "legal" rifles at the muzzle. This lucite Cartridge Block is now obsolete, because it does not contain the new-for-2016 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum. Roy Weatherby died in 1988, nearly 45 years after he began his simple quest to find a more effective way to take an animal. Please leave your valid email address below. New brass was available from Jim Bells Brass Extrusion Laboratories Ltd. (BELL) and from Art Alphins A-Square. The 378 Weatherby Magnum was intended to replace the 375 Weatherby Magnum, which did not yield enough additional power over the 375 H&H. Most rugers have a 23" bl, while 460 weatherbys have a 26" bl. The .416 Rigby is almost exclusively loaded with 400-grain bullets. Just be certain that you send your ammo to your PH with enough time to confirm that it was received in good condition. I"ve shot a few there with a pistol. The 460 has a trajectory of a mortar round (exaggeration here). Initial loadings were mild, duplicating .450/.400 ballistics in a bolt-action. The rest of the group, including the more recent .500/.416 (Krieghoff), .416 Ruger (Hornady/Ruger), and current loads for the .404 Jeffery, all propel 400-grain bullets somewhere between 2,350 and 2,400 fps, with energies at or approaching 5,000 ft-lbs. Its push feed, but I had no problems when I hunted buffalo or any other animal with it. 1219 South Challis St. Unit C Salmon, ID 83467 | (208) 756-3006 | info@northwestmagnum.com. So the ruger has an advantage of being a . The 375 Weatherby Magnum could be considered a version of the "375 H&H Magnum Improved" family. GOING TO AFRICA TAKE ENOUGH GUN. So, take your pick, and be confident it will do the jobprovided you do yours.Craig Boddington, Main (520) 620-1220 I know it is close and the .416 would have more velocity at the same weight of bullet, but the BC of the .375 is much better. I have bought several guns for no other reason than memories of articles I read growing up. The .375, on the other hand, can be commonly found with 250- and 300-grain bullets, and some manufacturers also produce 260- and 270-grain loads. The 378 WM is a much larger base diameter and case than the old Rubberby cartridges based on the .375 H&H case. Taylors original approach was more subdued. 2750-2800fps with a .825 BC is like a .338 Edge/RUM/Lapua with more energy and a larger frontal area. I do know that the .416 Rigby case is only designed for around 52000 CUP and the 378 around 56000 - even though I've heard of people pushing the 378 to 65000 CUP. I have often wondered if the 378 would have a better reputation if the bullets had been stronger 40 and 50 years ago. Oct 26, 2011; Chuckdog. 1's in big chamberings pretty tolerable if you use iron sights--or get a small scope down low. One of my #1s has a redfield widefield 2-7x It has been comfortable. A few years ago I bought a .338-.378 Weatherby, which I have never shot because the loaded shells run $150/ box! The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. It may not match the exact item that you are looking at. .416 Ruger: 52.72: 17.56: 388: 2,528.416 Rigby: 52.49: 17.52: 400: 2,412.416 Remington Magnum: 50.46: . Condition. The block also does not include the 375 Weatherby Magnum or the 220 Weatherby Rocket. Hunted. I don't know the difficulties of getting an American made custom rifle into Australia, but if it is not a big problem . Although his exclusive arrangement with Mauser would soon end, when he designed his .416 he was the sole importer of magnum Mauser actions, so he was not constrained by case dimensions. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. The .30-378 Weatherby Magnum will drive a 180-grain bullet more than 3,300 fps. That (given the prices) is a huge blessing!! Allen, I'm surprised at you. Its big brother, the .378 Weatherby Magnum, was introduced in 1953. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. Some manufacturers offer 450-grain loads, but those are few and far between. WEATHERBY - LEFT HANDED MARK V .378 WEATHERBY MAG. There are significant differences. Plus, they are much more versatile, perfectly acceptable for a one-rifle safari battery, while a big bore is not. That is part of the reason that a new .416 Rigby found its way here recently. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. I've heard good things from all, but I've now seen the weatherby mark V in .460 weatherby magnum, Winchester safari express in .416 rem mag, cz550, Anderson wheeler .600 NE, MAUSER 98 .404 Jeffery, river NO.1 in . Yesterday, I got my Lott out.. Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. Able to fit into a .30-06-length action, with the propellants then available the .416 Taylor lacked the powder capacity to quite equal the .416 Rigbybut it came pretty close. This is ironic because the very first .416 Taylor rifle built was buiilt by Winchester.Bill Ruger kept a 77 in .416 Taylor for his personal use. The Jeffery case could be crammed into a .375-length action. 11 0. It is a shame how a number of good cartridges (.458 win, .416 rem, etc) have suffered perhaps unjustly given modern components. I do practice a quick second shot at the shooting range. A true rifle loonie is not required to justify his choice in cartridges solely on the merits of a given cartridge. Further, the case is not so fat, so you should be able to fit 1 more in the mag compared to the rigby. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. You are using an out of date browser. I'd go with the .416. Wooters loaded 4320 in his and shot it for years at 2400fps. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. The .338-378 has devoted fans in the long-range hunting sub-culture, but only exceeded the .340 Weatherby's muzzle velocity by 119 fps; a small reward for the huge recoil it produces. Mar 21, 2007. Now, the .458 Lott is getting loaded modern hot, which some folks say misses 1/2 of the point. 5,5 mm 5,6 x 52 R 500 Jeffery . Further, in my rifle, I have been blessed with a very very tight 1-hole 3 shot group (maybe I will try to repeat the deed) -- which was in my first sight-in target for the rifle (you see two holes as I walked the zero to the x-ring, then 1 very slightly ragged hole cutting the ring at 4:30). Skip to main content Skip to search. [3] It was an original belted magnum design with no parent case, inspired by the .416 Rigby and headspacing of the belted .375 H&H Magnum. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. Top mounted fully adjustable Green Laser: 532nm, Max output <5mw, Class IIIA Laser. The bullet I used on the buffalo was a Barnes Original, 400 grains, heavy copper jacket and lead core. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. __utmb cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. Ed Weatherby, Roy's son, designed the heavy-game cartridge by necking up the .378 Weatherby Magnum to .416. Estate Sale. Because of its great power and flat trajectory, suitable for hunting just about any big game anywhere, it has been referred to as "The Ultimate Rifle." The findings were that when the meters were set back about 40 yards, the rifle produced the same level of report with or without the brake. As near as I can tell thats just a storybut you dont want to expose any ammunition to direct sunshine, especially in hot climates. At the same time Federal brought out a modern load for the .470 Nitro Express, so it wasnt just the .416 that was being revived in that crazy year of 1988-1989! With a 250 grain Nosler Partition the .340 Weatherby produces a muzzle velocity of 2,941 fps and a muzzle energy of 4801 ft lbs compared to the .375 H&H with a 260 grain Nosler Partition that produces 2,750 fps as a muzzle velocity and muzzle energy of 4,367 ft lbs. I wanted to get a really good measure of the variation in POI for different loads. Location. I load the .300 RUM hot, mainly because it shoots the hot load more accurately. lbs is quite an increase in footpounds over the lott at 2300ft/sec. Become an AfricaHunting.com BENEFACTOR or SUPPORTER. Weatherby also entered the .458 game in 1957, with their .460 Weatherby Magnum. Weatherby has developed several rounds by necking down their awe-inspiring .378; the .300-378 and .338-378. Matte-finished metalwork and stock. I nearly bought a .416 Rem last year but talked myself out of it. (Shooting Times photo) It does not store any personal data. Too bad. The 416 has quickly become one of the best all-around cartridges for Africa. This was Ed Weatherbys first cartridge after the death of his father, Roy Weatherby, in 1988. I was worried for a hot minute that the .460 might be more accurate, but I had impressive results with both during my last couple trips to the range. The most miserable .416 I have ever fired was one of the original 700's. Anyway, the old 270 grain Spire Point at the speed of light was very impressive on deer and elk. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of sessions and to determine if HubSpot should increment the session number and timestamps in the __hstc cookie. As the Weatherby slogan states still today, "Nothing shoots flatter, hits harder or is more accurate than a Weatherby." Remington offers one in their Mod 700 abg (custom shop). Toll Free (888) HUNT-SCI Matte finished metalwork and walnut stock. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. I have a #1 in .416 rem, as well as a m77 in the Rigby. I just bought a new .416 Rigby #1 and my underconstruction .416 Taylor is back in the shop doing a few more little things to it. Then the 340 weatherby is just a tad slower and has some drawbacks but will have 3 in the magazine versus two with the 378's. So here is the question and dilemma I have Number 1. When it comes to deep penetration in the toughest game with an expanding bullet, I doubt that any other 37-caliber bullet is as effective. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. All loads were tested at 100 yards. In the 1970s the most popular was the .416 Taylor, developed by American gunwriter Robert Chatfield-Taylor and based on the .458 Winchester Magnum case necked down. I would like to see them actualy build the Taylor on the Hawkeye. The problem for many of the higher pressure cartridges being the heat where such big shells are used. Although you're not recoil-sensitive, the .460 Weatherby is a true beast, with something like 8. I feel like the original velocities of the Rigby have been killing effectively since the cartridges creation and I do not feel the necessity to load mine hotter. I load several belted cartridges and haven't experienced the problems I have read about. By 1958, he had his own Mark V Action that easily held the cartridge and two below it in the straight-feed magazine. Of course, you can increase the velocity on a big bore. If you can handle the recoil go for it. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. Twin Mark V Deluxes in .378 and .460, both with Leicas. It's as if one after the other tried to top the previous guy in his use of adjectives. The Rigby case can indeed be loaded up to right around .416 Weatherby pressures and velocities, no problem, and in fact some manuals list those loads. 8^} reflex264. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. My only partial complaint about the .416 rem is that Ruger has quit making rifles in .416 rem, Winchester has quit making bolt actions in which I could get a .416 rem. And, when .416 Rigby ammo was almost unavailable, .404 Jeffery (10.75x73mm) ammo was still loaded in Germany. My friend's father successfully uses a .340 Weatherby and .416 Weatherby to hunt elk in bear country.. Go with the 416. I grew up reading about the Taylor and if it ever is completed I will have a fine custom Taylor. The .378 Weatherby Magnum - Shooting Times The .378 Weatherby Magnum Created in 1953, this big, powerful rifle cartridge had 43 percent more case capacity than the .375 H&H. The .378 Weatherby Magnum (center) greatly exceeds .375 H&H (left) power. 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